Batch Operations and Multiple Object Handling in Civil 3D

I started writing this, realised it was getting incredibly long and stopped…

There is a distinct problem with “scalability” in Civil 3D. As modelling becomes more complex, as inevitably it does, handling of batch operations and multiple objects is hindered significantly by a lack of simple functionality to handle them in the core product. In turn, precious hours are wasted.

I am very interested to hear what can be done on the development side to deal with this problem? The changes for some of these items seem rather simple..

See below examples….

This is just a small handful of things you have to do “one at a time” inside Civil 3D. A simple function added would allow you to do multiple operations at once, saving an operator hours of time! But yet, we have to live with it!

(Having 20 plugins and/or 3rd party apps to deal with this is not a solution!)

1. Create Reference using Data shortcuts. You can create multiple data shortcuts, but you can’t “Create Reference” to multiple data shortcuts.

2. The volume dashboard can add multiple surfaces at once. But only remove one at time. Not to mention its lack of sorting or basic organisation functionality like, the ability to change multiple surface styles at once.

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3. Synchronizing Data Shortcuts can only be done on mass. Or one at a time. It would be ideal to be able to choose the objects I wish to synchronize in the toolspace to save processing time.

4. Additionally while synchronizing there is no way to specify in the “Object Name Change” box to update the name of all change objects

5. Settings Objects to rebuild automatically. Currently you can only turn them on/off one at a time. Very time consuming. There is a lot of work that can be done here. Particular for more complex models that need to be changed. Rebuilding can take a very long time and you may want to delay it until you have made enough changes.

a. Adding a “Global Rebuild” On/Off Feature. This would allow a quick and dirty solution to changing complex models without the wait time..

b. Adding the ability to turn on/off rebuild for civil 3d objects in the prospector/properties box. And even “save rebuild state” so you can restore certain states for particular modelling operations.

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6. In the Profile View Properties – > Profiles Screen although you can select and edit multiple profile styles etc. You cannot add or remove profiles

7. Additionally in the “Create Surface Profile screen” Only one alignment can be given profiles at a time.. Plus profiles that were previously created can’t be removed?

8. Corridor Targets – You can only do them all or one at a time. It would also be particularly useful to “copy/paste” targets between items.

9. “Set Width or Offset Target” and the “Set Elevation Slope Target” – In more complex drawings your alignment list can get quite long. A tick box that filters out “alignments/profiles that aren’t related to this corridor” would be very useful. Not having to press the “add” button everytime and just pressing enter would be also quite useful.

10. Can only add one DEM file to Surfaces at a time.

But you can do it in the point cloud creator?

In my opinion the GUI functionality is inconsistent and broken and needs a major overhaul. Relying on third party developers to solve these problems by creating little apps that perform these operations is also not good enough. Quite often the API is not available for these functions.

I do hope that good apps that reflect “core functionality” should be bought or reproduced and incorporated into the product regularly. Not left to be discovered on an “as needed basis”

Regards

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2 thoughts on “Batch Operations and Multiple Object Handling in Civil 3D”

  1. I have come across each of the items you have listed above over the past 5 years I have been working in C3D and I wholeheartedly concur with your post. Thank you for taking the time to put it down in words on your blog (no worries on the length of the post, anyone reading it has probably read countless online articles having to do with C3D a few more words won’t turn them away). The one about creating references in a dwg one at a time bothers me so much. I don’t use alignments in some cases just because of the tideousness required to data reference. I will stop there before I go any further into the C3D weeds. Great post!

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